On Monday, September 25th, San Diego was the scene of the worst air disaster, to date, in the United States. A mid-air collision between a Cessna and a Pacific Southwest Airlines PSA Boeing caused both planes to crash into the neighborhood below. A total of lives were lost including 7 people on the ground as well as the two people in the Cessna light aircraft. More than 20 residences were damaged or destroyed. Droves of off-duty firefighters voluntarily reported back to their assigned stations or to the crash scene to help where they could.

This page includes cockpit voice recorder data as well as comments from visitors to the site who claim to have lost friends and loved ones. And this page has photos of the dead. San Diego Magazine ran an extended piece in on the disaster, and the aftermath. Pieces of the Cessna, with its two-man crew, crashed at 32nd and Polk streets in the heart of North Park, an eclectic mix of shopkeepers and working-class residents, a few miles from the San Diego Zoo.

Flight recorder data showed the collision happened at 1 minute, 47 seconds after 9. From resounding collision to fiery aftermath, the elapsed time was just 13 seconds. Now that was a bad day. Joe, I found out about this crash about a month after I moved into my new house… about two blocks away from the crash site. Tom Leitch said on Saturday, July 31,2: One of the members lost his son on that flight. He lost a second son in another mid-air collision a few years later over Belle Isle in the Detroit River.

He was a chopper pilot for the Detroit Police. Imagine the odds of losing two sons in mid-air collisions. Jose Kirchner said on Sunday, August 1, My friend and one-time colleague, Nellie Jackson, was on that flight, leaving her teenaged daughter surviving her. Nellie flew PSA SMF — LAX — SAN routinely, to work.

Two for nothing, pilot errors; more lives lost. My sister, Maureen and her 8 year old son Jimmy were on that flight. Avery tragic day for our family. Brian SSaffer said on Thursday, October 28, I was 14 watchin my dad work at a local firestone store.

I heard the explosion muffled and everyone was running into the street. We saw the debris from the cessna floating like tinsel from the sky and we had no idea what had happened until we heard it on the radio over the next few days.

It was quite a month after the crash seeing the footage of north park on the local news. I remember this as part of my memories as a kid growing up. Prayers for those who lost their lives that day. And for those they left behind. SCOTT said on Sunday, May 28, I in the Navy on a westpac out of San Diego at the time.

Things were really tense for a long time and the Navy kept us updated on the situation. No one from my ship lost anyone thankfully. Tom Nelson said on Tuesday, July 4,0: I still have, on cassette, a news bulletin broadcast on a San Diego radio station about efforts for blood donations and other information, that I recorded at the time. George Biedenbender said on Wednesday, August 2, On my way home that evening vicinity of 50th and University, a flurry of activity was ongoing up and down University Ave.

Rex Ralls said on Monday, August 14,1: I had just gotten out of the navy the day before the flight accident. My wife and i lived at Illinoise street in a apartment. We were crossing the desert that night because of heat.

I cant tell you how many times I thoght of those people…. Dan Barnes said on Wednesday, August 16, So many wonderful people were lost on that flight including a sweetheart of a woman I was dating Flight Attendant Gail Shapiro.

It was not supposed to be her flight that day but her roomie caught a bug so Gail took her flight. I still have a place in my heart for Gail…. Pam said on Wednesday, August 16, I was a PSA employee at the time of the crash. I was stationed on the ground at LAX. I went out with my future husband on our first date on the night before the flight. I have been traumatized for life over this crash. I should have been on that plane. Many co-workers and even my boss Bob Benner and his wife were on the flight.

Such a devastating loss. My life was forever changed that very day. I think of how very lucky I was that day to be sick! I have a sever fear of flying to this day.

I have flown recently, but it never gets any eaiser. Lisa said on Friday, August 25, Amancio Elizaga III said on Thursday, September 21, My dad Amancio Elizaga Jr.

I did not know him, I was only 5 months old. I think of him often. He was so young with his whole life ahead of him, he left on this earth his wife, my mom Aletamy sister Amanda not yet 2 years old at the timeand me and countless friends and relatives. Steve said on Thursday, October 5, I had caught a couple of hours sleep in the back after working a grave shift at the at Princess View and Mission Gorge Road.

About one hour later a PSA flight attendant I think we still called them stewardesses in those days came into our store.

It was so strange that this would happen on this particular morning. Rick and I looked at each other, then looked down. The young woman came up to the counter and purchased a couple of items. No one said a word.

It was so unspeakably sad, more so I think because San Diego was, in those days, so much smaller. The whole city was in mourning. It seemed to me that all of that day was hushed. PSA had been just a huge part of San Diego, and all of those lives lost, both in the air and on the ground. In the evening I went out to eat. It was so quiet. It really was like a little piece of all of us died that day.

When something happens right there; right in your city. Andrew Valencia said on Thursday, October 5, I was named after Andrew Martin, the owner and pilot of the cessna which collided with the PSA. He was flying to San Diego to meet with my father and address a board meeting on that tragic day. My father was at the office waiting for him to call from Brown Field Airport, and found it unlike Andy to be late.

He then called my godmother at their home in Malibu to confirm his flight schedule, at that moment he heard on the radio, two planes collided and crashed over North Park. There was dead silence over the phone and denial that he was dead. Andy Martin is survived by his wife, two beautiful children, and godson.

His loss devestates us to this day. He is in our thoughts and prayers. Emily Sedgwick said on Wednesday, October 25, I had recently moved to Spring Valley from the Los Angeles area. I was actually getting ready to make a trip back up to LA. My house had a panoramic view of the city to the west from a hill. I had just walked out to my car to load up a couple of things and looked out over the horizon. I saw an incredible mushroom cloud of black smoke — just like a bomb had gone off, and the mushroom was still rising.

I could not believe my eyes. Of course from that distance I did not see anything but the smoke, but it was clear that something horrible had happened. I immediately turned on the radio and heard what had happened. I remember the staging area at St.

I remember feeling terrible helpless and not knowing what to do. It was something I never will forget. I remember later an acquaintence I had at the time told me she had been driving through North Park when it happened.

She said she ran a stop light accidentally, and that if she had not done that she would have been killed for sure because the jet went down behind her. It was a horrible day for all San Diegans. Renay said on Sunday, January 21, The crash happened a day before my birthday. I was in the 7th grade and we were having half days from school because of the heat.

Hoover High was being used a a morgue and that crahs changed North Park forever. Jason J said on Wednesday, May 9, I have lived in this county for most of my life, but was only 3 years old and not living in the county at the time of this crash. I live in Normal Hts. I have since read everything there is to read about this flight.

I even visited the corner of Nile and Dwight. There is an empty lot just south on Nile near Dwight and the I wonder if that was where the plane impacted first. Newer pearly-white eerie buildings now occupy the impact area. The houses in that neighborhood were built in the 20s and 30s so it is easy to see the trajectory. It is obvious that the pilots had lost their fear of flying by the CVRs. Pilots should always have some small fear of flying in them so that they will be extra cautious when necessary.

None of us do. They took the whereabouts of the Cessna much too lightly. Aside from the fault of the PSA crew, that Cessna should not have been able to fly anywhere near the commercial routes. Now I have to be freaked out when I look at the faces on the flight memorial page. People forever stuck in their s styles, most of them in their youth.

It was an attractive goup of people, including some women who appear to be knock-outs: A Lisa Davis, a Karen Borzewski, a Gayle Shapiro, and a Dee Young. Even 29 years later. May they rest in peace and may their friends and relatives be comforted.

I think that the only thing that we can take solace in here is that they only had about 10 seconds of fear, maybe even less before the impact. Perhaps some thought they were merely going in for an emergency landing, and hence, never felt any fear. Dylan Gold said on Wednesday, May 16,4: This plane crash is a vivid childhood memory of mine and I recall that day often, even today.

There was a very loud collision overhead, causing all of us outside to look up, only to see the plane with its wing on fire falling to earth, and the enourmous black cloud that appeared therafter. I can remember my parents being quite distraught as we went home early from school that day. Later on, my mom gave me colored pencils and told me to draw what I had seen.

For some reason I dont know, all the people in the drawings are smiling, yet laying on the ground amidst fire and smoke and wreckage. We still have the news clippings from the Tribune, as well as the follow up story years later about the Hans Wendt and his experience then and since.

I spent the next 7 or 8 years living there and watched that very location heal itself as I grew up. While that was as bad of day as any neighborhood could have, and while I could not grasp the gravity of the situation at the time, I feel very fortunate to have grown up in that exact location, and it will hold a special place in my heart forever.

Rich said on Saturday, June 23,4: We were among first p. Gary said on Sunday, June 24, I was an Air Traffic Controller at the time of the crash, working in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and I remember the knee-jerk reactions of the Press and the U. A distant crash suddenly came much closer to home. Seven years after the crash, no longer an Air Traffic Controller, I was working in Southfield, Michigan with a co-worker who was from the San Diego area.

We got to talking about the crash and I learned that he had dated one of the flight attendants on the PSA jet. I wanted to see if this was authentic so i got info from film and looked it up. It is sad to see all the gruesome pictures on the film. Also sad,is the fact that these terrible things happen quite often. Death is truly a great mystery for the living. None of us know anything about it.

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To go in a terrible way like that tho,with no warning or notice has to be the worst. Ronn said on Tuesday, June 26,9: I was 10 years old when this accident happened. I grew up here in San Diego and will never forget how it made me feel.

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Today, I have never been able to fly without the fear of it happeneing again. My prayers go out to all those who had to say good-by to those they loved. Anne Robinson-Todd said on Friday, June 29, I was a teenager when flight went down. The impact hit 2 blocks from our home. My family was some of the first on the site to try to help any survivors. It took eternity to get home that day to see if my family on the ground was still alive. I will never forget the devestation when I walked down the street.

Empty city blocks that were once homes where I use to play. My family left the area shortly there after because the memories were too much to bare. We prayed for the people over and over again and we still have trouble comprehending what really happened. I am 44 now and just thinking about this brings it all back. Maybe I will visit the site some day and see the new changes to try to erase the memories of the flat, concrete blocks where the houses use to be.

Maybe that will heal my visions. God bless all those that tried to help and those that died on that day. Robert said on Monday, July 23,4: I was in ninth grade at El Cajon High on that day. I remember the Santa Ana and when the news reached our class room.

The teacher announced the accident and then still tried to teach. AJ said on Monday, July 23, I work at the San Diego Airport,everyday when I drive by the area,I think about that day. We are now coming up to the 29 year. I may have not known anyone that day. Vasili said on Thursday, July 26, Andy said on Saturday, August 4, Me and some friends were just sitting on a small hill talking and laughing. We were just innocent teenagers and while we were looking up at the sky we saw a distinct black figure which was the PSA plane coming closer and closer to a smaller plane.

We were just starig not knowing what was about to happen when all of suden we see flames and the two planes clip eachother. We saw the smal plane head straght down while the bigger plane had flames all over the right wing.

We saw as the plane suddenly jerked downward and began its descent towards the neighborhood down below. We heard a very loud BOOM and the plane crashed with flames and ball of fire go straight up. WE screamed and cryed not fully understanding what had just happened when we realized that some of our other friends were living down where the plane crashed seconds ago. I will never forget the sound of that plane crashing. Bob said on Friday, August 10, That day fate found me sitting in my car at the 40th and University Ave.

I had just dropped my then fiance off at work and was headed to my work. When I first saw Flight it was headed east. I briefly turned my attention back to the street lights. Right then is when I saw the fireball which turned out to be the Cessna I sat and watched in shock as the jet went down just a couple of blocks away. I raced to the scene to help in any way I could and wound up helping one homeowner at the initial impact point move his belongings out of his burning house.

Whenever I hear that song today I shudder and remember everything I witnessed that fateful day. Glenn Howard said on Sunday, August 19,2: I grew up very close to the nieghborhood where this crash occurred. I would take a short cut throught this nieghborhood on a daily basis to visit my friend right around the time this terrible accident happened. I was on my way to my friends house and I recieved a call form my boss that he had my pay check, so I redirected my journey traveling north to the Miramar area noticing a very large fire in my rear view mirror later to find out that a PSA jet had crashed into my old nieghborhood.

I have several friends that are fire fighters and were called to the accident. One of my fire fighter friends was going into houses to make sure no one was inside and said he walk into the living room and noticed the stereo system had completly melted down.

He said it was an inferno and it looked like war. The other comments he made were to gross to share. It was a terrible day! KB said on Sunday, September 2,2: I was 18yr at the time. I recall newscasters crying on the air trying to tell what happen. Telling about body parts all over the place.

A very sad and shocking day. Even though I grew up in SD, I have never been down that street. I do recall being close by that week to pay respects but could not go down the street. One of my children asked about planes —out of the blue. Almost 29 yrs later since the accident.

I could not recall why PSA went down so looked it up and now the images are once again vivid in my head. DEBBIE said on Sunday, September 2, IT WAS TERRIBLE, I DIDNT SEE IT…. I WAS TWO SHORT BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE CRASH AND I THANKED GOD BUT I FELT SO BAD FOR MY NEIGHBORS. BUT WAS SO GLAD IT WAS AFTER MORNING RUSH OR IT WOULD OF BEEN WORSE. AND MY HUSBAND WHO WAS AT WORK CAME RUSHING HOME BUT SINCE WE HAD JUST RECENTLY MOVED HE HAD NO ID TO GET IN AND ENDED UP GETTING IN A FIGHT WITH SOME OFFICER TO GET IN, HE MANAGED TO GET HOME AND WAS RELIEVED TO FIND OUR LITTLE APARTMENT STILL THERE.

HE THOUGHT IT HIT US. I STILL THINK OF THAT TERRIBLE DAY AND HOW LUCKY I AM TO BE ALIVE, TO ENJOY MY GRANDKIDS ZOE AND ZAYAH AND NEVER FORGET THAT PSA DAY! Trey said on Tuesday, September 25, That crashed happened on a Monday. I had just gotten to a nearby grocery store off of University when I heared a loud crinkling sound from above, liek the crushing of al aluminum can. I looked up and there they were, the two planes. The small Cessna was in a free fall like a rock, one of the occupants, partially hanging out of teh crumpled wreckage as it fell.

Then the impact and explosion of the PSA jet, a huge thunderous explosion and the ground shook. Myself and a passer-by literaly ran the four or five blocks to the scene to see if we could help.

There was intense heat, thick, choking smoke, a sickeningly sweet smell of kerosoene and debris falling everywhere. We helped an elderly woman from her home, which was just starting to catch fire. A Navy fire engine raced up and soon some police, all less than five minutes after the crash. I was scared, shocked, winded from the five block run, and just full of adrenaline. Peopel were scurrying baout screaming, crying, frightened. Some were badly injured. We helped a middle-aged man who had a minor head wound from flying debris.

He had been in his garage,it turned out, when a smallpiece of debris struck him s it fell through the roof. He was ok ultimately, but scared and in shock. There were bits and pieces of paper flying about and ripped apart aircraft and bits of human flesh and organs strewn everywhere. Another man and myself grabbed a garden hose and we were able to save a home that had caught fire alongthe awnings.

It had exterior damage from fling debris and some human remains in the yard. We tried not to look. I retched at the sight of this. And tried not to look back, but she was there for at least an hour before someone finally placed a yellow bag over her. Her eyes were still open, her face contorted in an awkward, fearful stare.

Tim said on Sunday, November 4, I was working on the 2nd floor of an office about 2 miles from the crash site. We had routine shipments of sheet metal 2 ton spools dropped at our place of business. The whole building shakes similar to an abrupt earthquake each time.

A classmate of mine from Patrick Henry H. My prayers and thoughts go out to the families affected by that horrible day. Vasili said on Sunday, December 2, It is so amazing that Douglas Arthur and Donald St. Germain, the brothers-in-law from PSA got killed in the Crash.

Germain means Holy Brother. Germain got killed in the Crash. Sergio said on Wednesday, December 19, They merged with US Air in They last flew as PSA in April My sister was a flight attendant for PSA from Sept. She then went to Delta Airlines out of Salt Lake City when she married her husband, a Delta pilot.

She was at Delta from August to Sept. She is currently with United out of San Francisco and will retire in two years. She knew eleven of the victims of PSA Flightthree closely. She still regards PSA as the best and happiest days of her career. He apprroached her in the galley, dropped his eyeglasses as an apparant ruse, bent over to pick them up, and forcibly removed her shoe and began tickling her right foot, causing her to laugh uncontrollably momentarily until two other male passengers took alarm and stopped the man, who ws eventually arrested by Mexican authorities in PV.

It was just one of many of the bizarre and colorful tales associated with this once proud airline. Vasili said on Sunday, December 23, Theo said on Monday, December 24, Chalk it up to fate, but I was scheduled to be on that flight. I had gone to Sacramento the previous week for State business. Decided to spend the weekend at an old girlfriends house in Roseville.

After a weekend of partying hard with her and friends, felt hung-over and sleepy on Monday. I was young 25 and dumb and full of Rum. Decided to call in sick that day and rebooked for a later afternoon flight on Hughes Airwest. Learned of the PSA crash shortly after waking up on local Sacramento news. Spooked, I cancelled the afternoon flight and took a one-way rental car all the way home to Chula Vista, driving for ten hours. I recall listening to the radio broadcasts of the crash all down the Valley that afternoon on I-5 and distinctly remember driving past the site and seeing the glow of floodlights up on the hill from I around Midnight.

I could smell the crash. It was very unsettling thinking that had I not partied hard all weekend, I would have met my end up there. Called in sick again on Tuesday and watched news coverage all day, read the newspaper about it. Was sick to my stomach. Finally went back to work on Wednesday and everyone there had been told I almost was on that flight.

They sort of treated me differently for a long while after that, nicer than usual, although I was always treated well. After awhile time erased the shock and horror of that day, but not the memories. Patrick said on Thursday, December 27, I was on the bridge of the US Navy ship USNS Taluga when I heard a noise and looked up and saw the plane starting to veer and head for the ground.

It was terrible and I felt helpless, we called it into our control center using our radio, that is all we could do.

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Dave said on Friday, January 4,9: I am a filmmaker located in Boston, MA. I am conducting research for a documentary film about the PSA jet crash in San Diego. I am searching for as many persons who were involved with some aspect of the tragedy who would be willing to be interviewed on camera or by phone… witnesses, police and fire units, investigators, residents of the neighborhood of the crash site, bystanders, clean up crews, reporters.

Steve said on Monday, January 7, I was on my way to pick up my girlfriend in National City to go to the beach. I was approaching SB I, on University almost to Boundary, thought I saw something flash or glint in the morning sky to my left.

The one guy who posted here is right about the body. I could see what looked like an arm or a leg hanging out the wreckage as it fell. It was horrifying to see that.

The PSA plane sort of went over the top of me, looked like it was going to crash onto so I veered to the shoulder and stopped. But no, the plane turned so sharply it almost did a and then it went in fast.

Huge explosion and ball of fire and black smoke. My car shook violently. I could smell the jet fuel immediately. I raced up Boundary, then over to Nile and parked to see if I could help. The heat was so intense and I was pretty scared to get too close. I saw a lot of neighborhood people running out of their houses as I got out of my car. There was an artery in her neck still lightly spurting the last bit of blood.

Her left eye was staring sraight ahead. There was a middle-aged man stillstrapped in his seat, the top of his head badly mangled and his left arm almost severed in the yard of the house next door. He was leanignto the left and the blood was draining into the grass. That was all it took for me and I ran back to my car, wretched and then left the scene.

I drove to my girlfriends house and she said I looked like a ghost. We watched the TV coverage on the news all day and I was in a semi-state of shock. Eventually, I received some counseling as I had recurring nightmares.

I eventually got past them. At the time I used to fly once or twice a year to my parents in Denver. Stephen Fitzgerald said on Sunday, January 20, I was a passenger on Flt that day having boarded in Sacramento with a stop in LA. I had taken that flight a dozen times before in the previous 3 years while working for the State. When I got on I sat in the last row on the right side of the plane in the smoking section. I began to feel very uncomfortable. During the flight to LA I changed my seat three times and a feeling of dread got stronger.

When we landed in LA I got off the plane eventhough I was to be met in San Diego. I got a State car and started to drive to San Diego and stopped at one of our offices in Downey to call San Diego to tell them I was driving in from LA. I was invited to attend to attend a staff meeting and five minutes into the meeting a secretary burst into the room to announce that I had been killed in a plane crash in San Diego.

That is how I learned of the crash of PSA Flight Like Mark Twain, I was able to say that news of my death was premature. Comment on PSA Crash in by Stephen Fitzgerald said on Sunday, January 20, Vasili said on Wednesday, January 23, Nine years after the crash occurred, Douglas Arthur, the brother of Donald St. Germain, who is a victim of the PSA Incident, is the victim of the deadliest incident by a disgruntled worker in the history of North America.

SARA ANN said on Tuesday, February 12, I was in Gym Class Wilson Jr High that day and remember looking up in the sky seeing the plane fly by, I thought to my self I love airplanes went to tie my tennis shoes and when I look up again the wing was on fire and you could hear the precipitating sound of a collusion it seemed it was headed towards the school but all of a sudden shifted. I will never forget that day. I had classmates that live in North Park and today my mother lives there.

Every time I travel to San Diego I remember this sad incident, which is due on Feb. I still love travel but this incident always comes to mind. David said on Wednesday, February 27, I lived in San Diego for 2 years while I attended college Pt. I am sure I flew that flight from Sacramento via LA to Sand Diego more than once because my parents lived in Chico at the time and I caught the early flight when I returned to school.

What always amazed me is that when I would go to work in the Hillcrest area of San Diego the planes would be over my car by barely feet as they were landing. If I remember correctly it has been so long the route to get to work took me up a very steep road to get to the Hillcrest area right past the airport. I always wondered how the aircraft managed to navigate around the buildings at that time.

At any rate this horrible accident had an effect on me, I am so sad and sorry for those who died and lost loved ones. Ron said on Wednesday, March 12, I lived woodstock animal foundation adoption North Park just on the other side of the freeway from the crash site.

I heard what sounded like an explosion and ran outside to see the plane almost directly overhead, wing on fire, headed for the ground. They say it took 13 seconds from collision time to impact with the ground but it seemed like a minute or more to me.

I got to the crash site before any emergency crews but very quickly realized that little could be done. I remember an older lady on her front porch telling me she had a hose out back. Her fence was on fire. The hose had little to no pressure and was really of no use. I seen emergency personell arriving and thought it best visa fx rates australia leave the area.

I used to love to fly. For many months after the crash I could hear the sounds of the plane going down and the several explosions after the crash. I finally got over my extreme fear of flying but to this day I am not christmas gifts for stockbrokers keen on flying. Steve said on Monday, March 17, I was on my mail run off of El Cajon Blvd when I heard a metallic-sounding crunch, looked up, and saw both the small plane and the PSA jet plummet.

I could hear the small plane hit the ground first a couple blocks away, not real loud sound, then a tremendous loud bang when the passenger jet hit.

The smoke in the area was thick and black, the smell of jet fuel evident. You know what they say…through the rain, the sleet, and the snow….

I finished my mail run that morning, listening to the news on the radio, all while this tragedy unfolded mere blocks away. One homeowner on my route had a sister that lived on Nile and that woman found a pair of severed feet in high heel shoes and a severed male left arm in her garden THREE DAYS after the crash, said to be among the last remains discovered, although in a teenage boy down the street found a small, weathered belt buckle and an index finger tip bone to the first knuckle while binary options without bonuses a dirt bike ramp in his backyard off of Nile.

They were believed to be remains from that crash. The kid lived on my route and showed me the pictures he posed with. Sherry Lynne said on Thursday, March 20, We live on Nile, down the street from the boy who found the buckle and finger. But it was not a belt buckle. It was a seat belt buckle with a finger bone sort of stuck in it. Their house was about eight or nine houses from the corner of Dwight.

Nearly 17 years that was in their back yard. Someone said there had bben some ivy plants there at the time of the crash and that is probably how it fx trader jobs in australia undiscovered.

When that family moved in around orthey did a lot of work back there and took the ivy out. In another neighbor of ours on Boundary, right behind us, resod their back lawn and discovered a small shard of plastic, about seven inches long, and a couple frayed pieces of torn fabric that amazingly still had some of that PSA color in it.

It was seat fabric. I was told one forex trading strategies resources a small fragment of human eye socket was binary helix stockwatch in a garden on Nile as well, about or so. But I never saw that one. Enrique said on Friday, March 28, There was much destruction this sad day.

I was 21 then and in school at SDSU. I lived on Nile with my Aunt and cousin Lupe. We moved there from Argentina in We love San Diego and our neighborhood brothers and sisters much. Our house was condemned because of damage suffered in fire. We were forced to move to La Mesa for almost two year. We came back but feeling never the same. There was still outline of repair work on stucco wall of home next door where a person on the airplane went through the wall and their head came apart in my neighbors bathroom.

He was much sick for a long time in despair over this. Alisa Ford said on Friday, April 4, I was 15 years old when this accident happened.

I was at school looking out the window day dreaming and staring at an airplane. I saw a mushroom cload that was enormous. It was degrees that day, I starting running to the crash site because my father was comming back from Portland Oregon that same forex rates bsp and I thought it could have been his flight.

When I reached the scean it comments on the 1987 stock market crash eleven years later total chaos, I was crying and hysterical there divergencias ocultas forex officers keeping people out when I tried to get past them I was thrown to the ground.

I saw people leaving the scene with debri. I was able to make to the airport to find that it was not my fathers flight, Thank God. I had friends in the Navy who were in charge of the clean up. I was told horrific stories the worst is when people were taking rings and watches of of body parts and stealing the luggage.

I moved back to Portland Oregon in Oct of and two months later on an air plane crashed within 2 miles of our home in the city. It landed on 2 homes that were empty and slid through a bunch of trees.

Luckely only 10 people died. Joel said on Sunday, April 6, I was 7 years old and attended Central Elementary at the time of the accident. I had just gottten out of the bathroom when I heard the boom that made me look into the sky. I can remember seeing a fireball,the cesna, falling from the sky. My aunt was a nurse at UCSD, she and some of her co workers helped out at ground zero later that day. May everyone who lost their lives that day rest in peace.

Naylor said on Thursday, April 10, My Uncle Jimmy was a young man at that time, around 18 he say, and he and my cousin Louis, who dead now, they always be showing me this and that.

They went there when that plane crashed and got them a haul of stuff until the undercover Po be flashing them badges and be chasing people off. They say back in the day when they used to tell me about this that they got them a gold watch, a couple nice rings, and some money out of a wallet they found in the street.

They used that to score some how much money does an interior decorator make in National City the next day.

But they also got them a seat belt, a small piece of the place all ripped. I told them that was gross but they say it was a keepsake of that day.

What all else, my cousin Ray had him a PSA magazine that had been on that plane that was all torn and had soem blood on it. Louis gave it to him. But this was back in the day when brownian motion in the stock market pdf rolled liked that, mobbing and stuff.

They cool not long after that and Uncle Jimmy he out in El Cajon now in a big old house with a cool ride. But he still got that stuff in a box in the attic. And Louis he died like a few years ago, but he had that stuff around still. They talk about that day, all the bodies they seen and the parts of bodies. But they bad back then, lifting rings and watched and that right off of severed arms and what not.

He gave one ring they had left over to his woman over there in Chula I think she was and she and him they got into it over that saying she was going to call the Po and that. He used to tell that story and laugh.

Yeah, but that was then. S&p 500 put option said on Thursday, April 10, Pisses me off reading about punks scrounging for souvenirs from members of loved ones.

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Harlon Buckwalter said on Tuesday, April 15, It is true that items were removed from victims remains. In one case, a young man actually had an entire severed arm in hand and was trying to wrench off a ring. He was arrested after a brief chase. Comments on the 1987 stock market crash eleven years later were grabbing many items, virtually anything they could get their hands on, even bloodied or worse, soiled clothing. Vasili h t pawnbrokers stockport on Sunday, April 20, Her full name is Nikki June St.

I knew one of the passengers on board the flight,,Charles Bren son of Clare Trevor-movie actress He was a wonderful young man. He had invited a photographer that I knew to accompany him on the flight…fortunately that person had to cancel at the last minute…What a tragedy! Franz Liepenwicz said on Tuesday, April 29, One of the interesting outcomes of this tragedy was that, nearly 30 years later, Donald St.

Tim Hobson said on Wednesday, April 30, She was at a little in and out grocery market down the street. She had just gotten into her car when she saw and heard the impact. She described the private plane as plummeting like a stone. Twiggy said there was a lot of paper, plastic, and luggage strewn about and blowing in the air at her end of the alley but saw just one body, a middle-aged man she said had the back of his head missing and a mostly severed arm dangling.

He had landed in the alley, still attached to his seat, which landed upright,his legs badly broken underneath it. She literally got in her car and left just an hour later, shaken, but refusing medical assistance, vomiting twice on the way home.

Twiggy went on to live O. She talked about this terrible day many times in the years we were all friends in the surfing community around O. How could anyone forget that horrible day. I had an antique shop at ohio and adams which is very close to 32 and polk.

I felt I just had to get my nosy butt to the site of the cessna crash site. Vasili said on Sunday, May 4, Before the crash occurred inthere is one famous person in the PSA. Victor Sen Yung, the Chinese Cook on the Bonanza was accidently injured by the FBI, fortunately, he was alive! Flip Schattinger said on Tuesday, May 6, My Aunt Sheila lost part of her backyard fence to debris from the crash. A section of wing sliced through the fence and took out about 10 foot of it.

The wing piece, about six feet long and three feet wide, ended up slicing through the back yard and impacted a small, cinderblock wall about waist high that sectioned off her garden from the rest of the yard. The piece had to have hit that cinder block wall hard, because it broke all the way through the cinder block, and into the soil behind it. Her best friend across the street and about five or six houses closer to Ground Zero had three whole bodies and several smaller remains on the roof, one side, and in both yards of her house.

As it was pointed out in a couple of the messages here, those poor souls had to know ozforex exchange rate was happening even if it was quickly, because one female body in her backyard had very wet slacks where it was clear the poor woman had urinated in fear.

Otherwise, her body had only minor scratches. Lou said on Monday, May 19, The plane crashed just three blocks from our house. But I was at the grocery store. When I rushed back to the house I barely made it as the police was internal revenue code incentive stock options the process of shutting down the street.

Exchange rate indian rupees to usd found finger fragments and some internal organs on the side of our house that aftenoon and had the authorities come to pick them up. They took lots of photos first. My next door neighbor had a severed head and part of the back fall into his gazebo. Teh facial expression on that head I will never forget…a look of terror,mouth agape as if in a scream.

Nobody should ever have to see such a thing. Virginia said on Sunday, June 1,7: My apartment, on Nile, was about two blocks from the PSA crash site. The initial impact sounded like a sonic boom. I went out on the balcony to inquire of neighbors. We were puzzled — until a man parked his car and informed us that a plane had just crashed down the street.

At the same time, we saw a large mushroom cloud of smoke rising over the roof, so I went downstairs to look down the street to see what was happening. Across my street was a two-story high wall of fire! Forex signals autotrader were running toward the fire from all directions and fire trucks began responding.

Lookie-loos were coming off the freeway to get a closer view and impeding emergency response units. Our cul-de-sac was quickly filled with lookie-loos. I went back to my apartment and got a call from my co-worker, who wanted to know if I was alright. Jacque said on Tuesday, June 3, I have a friend who was in the SD fire department at the time. He said the roads to the site were analisa forex hari ini gbpusd clogged up when they were arriving.

At times the trucks had to ram the cars aside in order to get through. Earl said on Wednesday, June 11,incredible tactic of binary options My sister Ruthie lived in the apartments acorss the street from the impact site.

She worked overnights is forex trading legal in qatar UPS back then and was alseep in bed when that crash happened. The impact literally bounced her out of bed.

She thought it was an earthquake. Then she saw lots of little pieces of paper and debris fluttering past the kitchen window which faced I She then thought the apartments had exploded. It took her years to get over the shock of the crash.

She left the area and moved to Scripps Ranch. I was in 4th grade attending Euclid Elementary school in East San Diego at the time. A nurse was in our class room demonstrating how to properly brush our teeth. All of a suddent I saw her mouth drop open. I turned around to see the the PSA plane going down and then a huge cloud of smoke. Even then my heart hurt for the people on the plane and their families.

They are forever on my mind and in my prayers. Man ,wont ever forget that shit,was 15 years old and saw the little cessna come burning down with the pilot hanging out of it, thinking fuck is this a dream? A huge fire ball rose up immediately and i ran down dwight street to see if anybody could be helped, and soon realised that it was hopeless. It was a day i will never forget and i didnt sleep for 4 nights afterwards.

I refuse to fly and the smell of kerosene will make me vomit, total nightmare that devastated so many people. My family was friends with Robert Osbyfrom fire department. Kat said on Tuesday, June 17, My Step-Dad owned a house on Nile that he rented out.

He was at home in Point Loma working in his wood shop when the tenant came up all shocked and weird acting forex companies limassol said most of the house was destroyed in a plane crash.

Pops thought he was joking. Forex4you indonesia was about 2 PM. He thought the smoke was from some regular fire. Pops was allowed in there on Wednesday and found the house was about half burned out. That night he discovered a few small pieces of luggage contents and eye glasses in the spa.

He said the man had a high-pitched scream like a pig sreech, He could actually hear that amongst the concussion and explosion. That sound and the sight put him in the hospital for almost six weeks due to mental issues. The flying man ended up impacting a car a couple houses down.

Cfd forex indices trading man next door lived there for many years after and still had bad dreams even in when I saw him last. David said on Tuesday, June 17, There is a post that mentions victims observed with incontinence of feces and urine.

This may indeed have been an effect of psychological trauma, however other factors must be considered, the g-forces of a fall of feet at mph could certainly have an effect on sphincter control as well as the sudden impact. At impact, any brain activity would stop when hitting the ground where g-forces and simple strategy trade forex essentially add tons of weight to ones own body.

Regarding the body going past at a high-pitched volume. This is quite true. The man witnessing it was not alone, just the only one there I personally knew. A pedestrian also observed it as well as a neighbor acorss the street who actually suffered minor injuries in the incident, inflicted by flying debris.

It is documented as all were interviewed. When the plane struck it exploded to the left, or South in a manner that several passengers were thrown, if you will, down the alleyway and Nile. And sound was heard coming from the person. Sheri said on Tuesday, June 17, I was dating Chuck Bren, who tragically lost his life along with others in this incident. He was an amazing guy, who will forever remain in our thoughts and prayers, as will all of the passengers and crew members.

Irish said on Wednesday, June 18, I think poster David is simply disturbed at the notion of the human suffering associated with this tragic incident and reasoning away, albeit logically, the reports of incontinence and screaming. And such an impact is instantly fatal 99 percent of the time, thus little if any reaction post-impact from the victims. However, PSA was eerily differnt on many levels. As a former NTSB investigator assisting in the disaster, albeit early in my career, we discovered a number of extraordinary occurences on several levels.

The aircraft impacted at a near 60 degree angle, nose to the right if you will, approximatley 30 feet to the left of Dwight Street, striking a house roof top. Passengers on that side of the airframe were distributed outward and upward across a 60 degree field of dispersion h.m.

gartley book profits in the stock market excess of miles per hours. Most were dismembered in the initial outward trajectory, some still attached to their seats. Neighbors did, in fact, report a high-pitched screech. David said on Wednesday, June currency futures trading demo, I need to clarify my pervious remarks, and thank you Irish, for doing this for me in your post as well.

I was in no way implying that people were not thrown from the plane or that witnesses did not hear high pitched screams. But for me and likely others, I want to find logic in something that was so horrible. But this aircraft, for some reason hits me in the gut at a visceral level.

But what I think affects me so deeply is the photograph. I liken this tragedy to The Titanic. Allen Simpson said on Thursday, June 19,9: The man called Irish is correct. Back then many we were tasked, in most crashes, with sort of an extra-duty of tagging remains locations as we went about our work. At least I and my partner were on several investigations. Sounds like Irish was too. That place was a mess. The impact site was small in all actuality.

But the remains were scattered about over a much larger distance. There was a great deal of mutiliation and comingling so to find three whole remains was noteworthy and memorable. It has to be true as these neighbors were clearly disturbed and at least one I recall was transported for medical evaluation. This was not reported to the media at the time as the whole thought of the matter was deemed too disturbing for an already excessively disturbing day in San Diego.

I do digital put option delta profile conversation about this. I had trouble with that investigationto the extent that I took a one month vacation in October to recover mentally. There was no CISM briefing in that era. And yes, incontinence was the rule of the day on board that aircraft, in the neighborhood, and even for some emergency responders.

It was that bad. No shame in that. Virginia said on Thursday, June 19,9: According to Rumsfield, Flight 93 was shot down, which explains the fact that there was no wreckage only a large hole in the ground. Allen said on Thursday, June 19, Virginia said on Thursday, June 19, In a candid moment in front of U.

Joe Crawford said on Thursday, June 19, As such, any new posts that are merely conspiracy claims and arguments against them will be deleted. Allison said on Sunday, That means binary options reviews 22,9: Kamakshi forex goa bless all the innocents who perished as a result of this terrible crash.

When folks pass, it is common to soil themselves. My feeling is that most of these people had no idea that they were going to die. They are now angels in Heaven, enjoying the Lord. I hope that the forex cargo edmonton alberta who is making a documentary of this incident focuses on the lives of the deceased, and the possible causes as opposed to just detailing the graphic gore.

May the souls of these people rest in peace. Sorry to all of those who had to witness this sad event. I was skipping class in the naighborhood when the crash happened. I ran to the site even befor the police did and so did many others I was on Bancroft street in a house that was not hit but the house next to it was and many others around the naighborhood. The liqor store down the street had bodys all over it and holes it houses from the impact.

All I remember too is that I was fineco trading system away back towards home and wanting to be safe and not get busted for skipping school. I felt like I was in a dream; the horror of it all still haunts me in my dreams. Lisa V said on Saturday, June 28, I remember being out at gym class at wilson jr high we could see the plane on fire going down, my friend jim lived on boundary street, he left the school and ran home, his home was ok.

I lived in Golden hills and the planes always flew over our house, after that I always thought it could happen again, sometimes I still dream that it does. I used to work at teledyne aeronautical and when the planes would be landing next to us I always thought of PSA flightwondering if they would crash.

Mike said on Monday, June 30, Lisa, have you ever heard of a Phil Kinney while working at Teledyne Ryan? I was in 9th grade at Mt.

Carmel when I heard about the crash—it was surreal at the time. Make money blogging with wordpress though I was not directly involved in the crash, I find myself continually checking this site.

Where can i buy coloured stockings Simpson said on Tuesday, July 1, I was in School at San Diego Academy in National City that day. I am 40 years old now. I used to write good bye letters to my kids, would spend weeks before a trip crying and never really could enjoy being where I was if I had to return by air.

Today, I live in North Park. My friend lives in the new house where the wing destroyed the old house. It changed my life and the life of many others as well as my home, San Diego. Peace to all those who suffered through the terrible crash, both the victims and their loved ones.

Steven Dietz said on Wednesday, July 2, I was home sick from 5th grade the day it happened. I remember I was watching Laverne and Shirley in bed when the news hit. There are two aspects of this hdfc netbanking prepaid forex card day that stick in my mind.

We lived in Loma Portal and I truly remember hearing the impact. Like a muffled boom and then the windows shook in my room. This would also happen at times when the Marines at Pedleton would fire their big artillery. Does anyone know if this could be possible at that distance? About I met a retired San Diego Police Officer, I can not remember his name. He claimed to have been on site at the time of impact. He told me something I found very disturbing and a bit hard to believe.

Does anyone have any recollection of this? I posted once before about this crash. About a month after it happened my partner and I took a flight to San Francisco. We were on an identical PSAplane and jittery as hell about flying. Over Oceanside all the lights went out except for the aisle lights and the cabin was bathed in a red glow. The plane made a sharp pitch to the right just like te famous picture There was ding-ding-ding in the cabin.

We all were scared s—tless. Turns out an engine had flamed out and we were getting back to the airport. They cleared the runway and we landed from the opposite end.

When we de-planed there were tv cameras all over the place. I have some idea of the terror those poor souls felt. Anyone else here who 5 minute binary option broker erfahrungen on that plane? The Boe said 1 minute dynamic momentum binary options system Thursday, July 3, I am pleased this comment board exsists.

The only reoccuring dream I ever have is a plane crash dream. On September 25, I was 7 years old blacklisted forex company in malaysia went to Kate Session Elementary School. I loved airplanes as they represented to gateway to summer fun as my family would travel to Maine every year since I was born. The day the plane crashed it was so hot school was cancelled.

My dad was listening to KSDO radio which was broadcast from the highrise building in Northpark which is now the Bank of California building the announcer was looking out the window shitting his pants watching the plane crash and cusing and crying about what he was seeing before his eyes…giving the listeners html select option jstl play by play.

I was so little and so sad and scared. Exchange rates in karachi today the plane crash was so major and important. I became obsessed with airplanes after that. Now I live not too far from there.

I hope we can continue to honor all of those people who were killed and injured, their families, and all of the San Diegans and others who effected by this. Northpark stock market crash indicators got soul. Comment on PSA Crash in by Ronnie Simpson said on Thursday, July 3, Ron Fleming said on Saturday, July 5,0: I was in the navy at the time. I found body parts and a soft fly coverd corpes buried in the rubble.

I tell this story and people think Im bullshitting. Was I really there? Does the navy have records? Time is a funny thing. Maybe it was a dream. I know it was not. Kevin Smith said on Tuesday, July 8, My father was on that fateful flight. Ironically he had been bumped from his scheduled flight the night before and the airline comped him with an upgrade on PSA His name was Roger 48 and he left 6 children then aged 10 and a wife.

Our loss was worsend by the fact that we never recieved a body to bury or 30 second binary options strategies for dividend capture. In I finally visited the site of the disaster. No other family member of mine ever wish to visit the site. As I stood there I spoke with a number of residents walking dogs, etc.

When I heard that some victime were actually looted, I was saddened to think that someone may have grabbed a physical piece of my fathers last moments before meeting his maker.

If anyone knows of plans for a memorial this September marking the 30th anniversary of this tragedy, please leave a note and I will check back to this site often. Clemson Grad said on Tuesday, July 8, I was off that day because school was to be cancelled at Noon due to the heat wave. So, being the way I was back then, I cut class.

I was with a buddy on University when the two planes hit. The little plane dropped right away and we could see arms and legs dangling indian stock market ebooks as described in earlier posts.

The PSA jet looked like it was going to hit I but then veered back in and then BAM! I mean it was a really loud explosion. There was a huge ball of flame. My buddy threw up and was close to passing out and a neighbor laid him down on the grass and gave him water.

She had clearly wet her pants, so those accounts are true as well. We saw one young black male maybe 16 to 18 going through a purse. We left too and were never the same. Steven Dietz said on Tuesday, July 8, So sorry to hear about your father. As for a memorial service on the 30th anniversary I am not sure. I do know that I will be at the crash site at 8: Perhaps I will see you there. Pete said on Wednesday, July 9,8: IAs for the alleged Police Officer who claimed to be on-site, that is nonesense.

It was well-known that day and not reported due to the horrific shock value of such a thing. Remember, this was Even the local media had the taste not to report about a screaming, defecating man flying through the air at speed. So, that did happen.

None that I am aware of and I was a first responder with SDPD, arriving within 15 minutes of the crash. The actual first responder was a US Navy Fire engine and a SDPD motorcycle officer who was the one to call in the incident literally seconds after impact. He was near Balboa Park at the time, working a four-way stop for violaters. When I got there it was pure mayhem. Debris and fire, body parts everywhere, screaming neighbors, the thick, acrid smell of jet fuel and burning plastic, and flesh.

The little Navy engine was fighting fire furiously and those guys were heroes. SDFD had just arrived when I pulled up and one of their Captains was sick to his stomach on the spot. I rendered assistance to him and then when he gathered himself, we just started fighting fire and herding neighbors away from danger.

I was there until 10 PM that evening. It was the single worst day of my 11 years at SDPD 11 more at LA Harbor Police and five with DEA. I had nightmares periodically for a decade or more. I distinctly recall the crunching sound of bone fragment under my boots during the day and never could quite get that out of my mind. I know that sounds like a cliche, but it is true. It was a day that I will never, ever forget. Leanne said on Wednesday, July 9, I recall the car with the prone body sticking out the back.

It did look as though it was Superman, arms outstretched and all. They covered the whole car by 2 PM or so. The police and media wanted to talk to us all day it seemed. I missed the crash as I was asleep. But it woke me up. Our house was not damaged and we were maybe three or four houses to the south of the flying man.

We did have paper debris and stuff blow around the yard but that as it. The guy across the street, he was a UPS driver, he rushed home to check on his wife. She was at the store when it happened.

I recall how relieved he was to see her pull up wondering what the hell had happened. That couple had a femur and a pair of high heels in their back yard and some insulation in their big tree back there. The femur had been charred clean of the flesh in a blast like pattern. He spent half the day trying to get someone back there to pick it up. We all had nightmares for years I think. I know I did.

That was all the talk on that side of the street. Steve Kyle said on Monday, July 14, I was stationed at NAS Miramar, instructing pilots of TopGun and Fightertown USA in the physiological aspects of flight, and manned the flightline ambulance at the time this crash occured. Due to the limited availability of crash ambulances for the Fightertown area runways, we were instructed to maintain an on-call status for the PSA crash, but were not authorized to respond to the tragedy.

In an eerie coincidence, the same year yeilded two crashes at NAS Miramar: Larry Feldman said on Monday, July 14, He parked on Nile, near the corner, to see his girlfriend. They jumped in her car to go to the beach. It was crushed by one of the wings.

His girlfriends neighbor was less fortunate. She lost her life, struck by flying debris, which literally impaled her by force onto a street sign.

Matt said on Tuesday, July 15, Kevin said on Tuesday, July 15, I wanted to post a note with those of you who read this blog and share a personal story of what occurred to me.

My father died on this flight. I was 19 at the time and like many rebellious teenagers had a strained relationship with my Dad at the time. My fault to be certain. I was enlisted in the air force and had just obtained a private pilots license. The saturday before the accident I logged 3. My father was proud of my obtaining a pilot license.

He was also proud that I had volunteered to serve in the armed forces. When I received word of the accident and that my father had been on the plane I immediately left base and returned to be with my family in Ohio. We organized a memorial service to remember him and his life. He was gregarious, creative, and humble. I stayed in Ohio for a week before returning to my duty station.

I had an apartment off base. It was a small one bedroom studio above a garage. As I climbed the stairs to my apartment I noticed the mailman had left a box at my door. It was from my father. Mailed Sep 23, the box was lovingly filled with individually wrapped items. There were socks, candy, food, toiletries, sundries and books all neatly wrapped like it was Christmas.

More than 60 items in all. It took me over three weeks before I had everything unwrapped. Each item I opened would send me into another bout of tears and remorse at having been so rebellious toward the man who gave me life and whose own was now gone.

It was so special that my father would take the time to send such a thoughtful, carefully prepared package for me. It was as though he was still telling me how proud he was of me and that he loved me even after death. The next morning I forced myself to climb into a Cessna and head out to punch holes in the sky.

I believe it is what my father would have wanted. Marshall said on Wednesday, July 16,3: To hear all of your stories almost brings tears to my eyes but at the same time this further educates on a part of San Diego history.

I have aquirred the news paper from back then, the one that shows the coner house on fire looking up Dwight street from in front of the first house in which the roof was demolished on Nile street looking to the west.

I have heard various stories from family members and friend who were around that time and as it was described to me by many the cessna was climbing in altitude out of ft while the flight was gaining on the cessna at the rate of a mile a minute and was decsending out of ft as the crew of flight lost sight of the small cessna that could easily blend in with the homes below.

My Father 18 at the time saw both planes glance off each other he saw a fireball rain down as if it was napalm while the right wing of the PSA caught fire followed by a trail of smoke banking to the right and losing altitude, just before he saw the jetliner disappear behind some trees the planes wings banked into a 60 to 70 degree angle and went sraight down. He felt the shock and heard the explosion from National ave.

If anyone has any video footage, pictures, radio recordings that could further help me with information for the documentary please let me know. To hear all of your stories almost brings tears to my eyes but at the same time this further educates me on a part of San Diego history. I have heard various stories from family members and friends who were around that time and as it was described to me by many the cessna was climbing in altitude out of ft while the flight was gaining on the cessna at the rate of a mile a minute and was decsending out of ft as the crew of flight lost sight of the small cessna that could easily blend in with the homes below.

My Father 18 at the time saw both planes glance off each other he saw a fireball rain down as if it was napalm while the right wing of the PSA caught fire followed by a trail of smoke banking to the right and losing altitude, just before he saw the jetliner disappear behind some trees the plane banked into a 60 to 70 degree angle and went sraight down. My heart goes out to all lost or affected in any way. Klemm said on Wednesday, July 16, The story on the block over the the next few years was that his flying body, stretched out prone, arms extended, was accompanied by a high-pitched scream or squeal sound, and that was what put one poor man into counseling and mental health care all the way to !

A few years later we brought it up with the woman across the street who confirmed it and told us the rest of the story. In lateat a party in North Park, I met a woman who was a flight attendant for PSA in She mentioned that particular man was identified as an off-duty PSA employee and mentioned the name but I have long since forgotten it.

Yes, I have no reason to doubt this as fact. It has come up too often in conversations in the neighborhood and even on this website. Thus, he was conscience and alert upon ejection, and would have, unless he passed out, about three seconds of awareness before impacting the car. In her opinion, that would be substantial enough time to produce the scream people allegedly heard, as well as the defecation in the trousers unless that had already all been underway and it was merely a continuum until impacting the car.

I used to hear about it all the time and even met the man who was most disturbed by it. Melanie Glenn said on Wednesday, July 16, We lived in Sacramento at the time. Our next door neighbor lost he husband on that flight. I was attending American River College at the time and had come home that morning when my class was cancelled. We heard a blood-curtling scream from the house and both my mother and I and the man in the house on the other side came running thinking there had been an attacker.

We found her on the living room floor, tv coverage on the crash, and she was sobbing uncontrollably borderline hysterics.

She KNEW he was on that flight as she had taken him to the airport and then flipped on the tv later that morning to learn of the crash, a few minutes later the report there were no survivors. Edgar Delahuerta said on Thursday, July 17, In Spring Roberto moved from National City to Cincinnati, Ohio to work at his business partners Mexican restaurant there. He was a chef at the time. He met a girl in Kentucky and they became quite serious in Summer He brought her out here for the Bicentennial celebration in Lakeside that year.

They were engaged in January Sadly, she lost her life in Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire in May ofjust four months before their wedding date.

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She had gone there to attend a bridal shower of another woman and died of smoke inhalation. My brother was devastated and soon returned to San Diego.

In December of he returned to his original restaurant in Chula Vista and began to rebuild his life, still reeling from the tragedy. In April on he met a PSA Flight Attendant at his apartment complex. They attended the All-Star Game that summer and they also went on a weekend get away to Las Vegas.

He seemed to be recovering and was happy with this new girl. At least it was headed that way. He ended up off work for several weeks and began drinking. Thank goodness he stopped and he did recover to continue on with his profession but it was a long time before he was happy again. InJune, he went on a weekend getaway with friends to the Colorado River for rafting.

The girl he was to be set up with as a sort of blind date was killed in a traffic accident on US 95 on the way to the trip. He never even got to meet her. He remained single until June and was finally married to a beautiful single madre of two, and they now live in Imperial Beach.

He knows of this website but is too hurt to post. Allison said on Thursday, July 17, Edgar, I am so sorry to hear of the tragedies that have befallen your brother. May God bless him and bless the victims of flight Congrats to your brother on his new marriage, and he will be in my prayers.

Trey said on Sunday, July 20, I just read all the comments on the site. When I first looked at those comments it made me sick to my stomach.

And it has stuck with me, just the thought of what that person had to not only experience on the way down, but then also being ejected alive. I cannot imagine what that would be like. Blanca said on Monday, July 21, She was not home when this crash take place but did see this however when she rush home a few hours later. This man they talk of, he was stuck in back of car and very broken around the head. Her neighbor, this very nice man of always pleasure to talk to when we visit, he was crying and shaking these hours later becuase he see the man and heard him screaming just before he strike car.

So did the woman across the street and they try to comfort each other and so did my sister but she was scared and upset and could not help.

This man and woman across street and the others whom we do not know at time, they say he scream high scream until hitting car and they were all very upset.

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So I have heard of this sad happening. Always I feel for the man and the others who died. This was when I was young teenage girl but I have never forgotten hearing of this tragedy and the man who was flyign throughthe air and screaming and the ones hurt by this witness. Trey said on Monday, July 21, Sad stuff Blanca, that confirms the story even further. Tristin Burkholdt said on Tuesday, July 22, My father was an investigator in this crash.

He was about mid-career when this happened and told me once that it was the worst accident investigation he had ever conducted and almost thought about leaving NTSB in the months following. Father worked on a small team that more or less sequenced the events on the ground. He had many nightmares over that. He went on to conduct other investigations, mostly small aircraft, and one moe big one, Cerritos inbut never forgot PSA Flight and considered it his worst job.

Eric Barnes said on Tuesday, July 22, My old bro from the Air Force, Sig Sturdivant, his mom and pop lived on a street right near there.

We were at Misawa Air Base Japan when this crash happened so we missed it but in November we took leave together so we could get back to the states and see the Chargers and Rams back-to back weekends.

Anyhow, Sturdy and I stayed at his parents house and we walked over to that site. It was little compared to what I thought it might look like. That one street is pretty small, short. Being the upright dude he was he turned that all over to the police. Told is it sounded like a nuke. They thought San Dog was getting pounded by the Soviets! Anton said on Tuesday, July 22, North Park was here I came out of the closet and embraced my life.

Being a gay male back then was much differnt than today. And I was only 27 at the time. Still, I felt an acceptance there and really started getting comfortable. The neighborhood had such great vibes. When that crash happened I was at work in Old Town. I lived near therem off of Texas, but not close enough to be allowed home. When I finally did get off shift, I rushed over there for some reason, bypassing the apartment altogether and going staight to the scene of the crash.

Many people were milling about and I will be honest, it had a bit of the carnival atmosphere on those streets west of Boundary. The police were quite busy trying to keep people back and away and seemed focused on making sure residents who actually lived in the area could get about. Liz Pacini said on Tuesday, July 22, I just learned that last weekend.

I knew she was dead, just not why or how. She worked for PSA. Epps said on Tuesday, July 22, Back then we banged in the gangs. Way lower key than today but we banged around anyhow. My best friend Shaun punked on some rings and wallets and the like and then felt real bad about it. I thought it was sick and took no part. But some of my boys were down there stealing. I stepped aside on that one. They capped on me pretty hard for not punking with them that day, but you have to draw the line on something like that.

Kelli Andersen said on Wednesday, July 23, There were only a couple people on Nile still living there that we knew of at least who were around when this crash took place. One of them told us about this guy as she actually saw it happen.

Nice lady, forget her name. She lived on Nile facing West, about four or five houses down from Dwight. She said she was tending to her plants in the front yard when this crash happened. She actually saw the whole event start to finish. She said when the plane impacted she threw herself to the grass instinctively. Yes, she said Superman. She used to describe it as like throwing hamburger meat down on the counter.

And yes, she told us she peed her pants but why is that such a big deal to everyone here? What would you expect seeing something like that and nearly dying in the process. Phillip Van Vleet said on Thursday, July 24,8: A couple years ago my brother showed me a small twisted piece of airframe about the size of a piece of 8.

He lifted it from the scene when he was 13 years old. I was only two when this happend. We lived on Boundary. He kept it hidden and a secret for years and then one day just blurted out he had it.

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I started researching this crash a couple weeks ago and found this blog. You have to wonder how much material is out there with all the looting that took place and the kids and adults running around. You have to question what he was thinking that day but he was a kid.

Also, there was a post in this blog about a PSA flight attendant on another flight who had her feet molested by an errant foot fetish passenger. I guess he freaked out and pulled her shoes off and tickled her toes midflight. My mother would never let me go to that dentist again afterthis happened and amazingly he was still in practice or back in practice anyhow, a few years later when I graduated college with his daughter in my graduating class. Those are my two PSA stories.

Oh, and we used to live on Mt. Blackburn Avenue, down the street from a PSA mechanic who knew people on that flight, and threw up in his front yard and went to his knees when he was on his way to his car to rush down to Lindbergh when this story hit the news that morning. Mnay people suffered that day.

Greg said on Saturday, July 26, Memorial observance this September? Thank you very much. John said on Saturday, July 26, Although I did not live in San Diego, I lived up in the bay area at the time I can still remember that picture on the news and the newspaper at the age of 12…it was haunting.

That picture and the 79 crash in Chicago terrifed me of flying for years. After reading several NTSB books over the years its too bad that MOST accidents are due to pilot error and plain just goofing around. The Pilots of had a greater responsibity to all those passengers and by being so careless basically let them all die. The bottom line on this accident…the pilots were busy talking to off duty employees and not paying attention to what the hell was going on.

My heart goes out to the families of victims that were murdered by a few …. Dave said on Sunday, July 27, This blog is filled with many compelling stories about that tragic day.

If you would like to contact me to learn more about my film or if you would like to talk more about your memories from the crash, please email me at specwrite aol. What I wish to share is this: I have never had an experience like this before. I immediately did a Google search on my computer, read about the facts on Wikipedia, and then discovered this website.

I have no idea why I had this strange experience this morning, or what it could possibly mean. RICK FERGUSON said on Tuesday, July 29,9: I lived in San Diego at the time of the crash. I did not know anyone on the plane but like alot of people it affected me. I lived in O. In I left San Diego and returned to my native state of Ohio. I now reside in Michigan. On July 25, I parked my rental car and walked down Dwight St. If you look hard enough you can see some signs of the crash, mostly the homes are a little newer than those of a block or two away.

I said a prayer as I walked not only for the victums of the crash but for everyone affected by it including some of the people who have posted on this site. I guess for me after 30 years it was time to finally put it to rest. Rey Lopez said on Tuesday, July 29, Lived on Nile back then. Just a kid, really. I worked part-time at Taco Bell and went to the beach a lot. I was home the day of the crash. I was playing my new KISS record on my little record player in my room when all of a sudden bam!

Huge explosion sound and the house shook violently, windows rattling, stuff fell off the shelf all that. What a shock wave! So I jumped up and threw on some jeans and a T because I thought we were getting bombed or something and ran out to look. Looking north, up Nile, just a huge column of black smoke was shooting into the air and all manner of paper and debris was fluttering through the air, you could smell this awful jet fuel smell and even feel the heat from that roaring ball of flame down there, and I mean screaming, awful screaming as people ran outside their houses and all around in circles almost.

The guy that was called the flying man here, he was the first of two bodies I saw. He was up the street about five houses on the west side of Nile. He flew right into the back of a car and his legs were sticking out the back window, his arms and head were all torn up and bloodied up bad.

Most of the top of his head was crushed inward but you could make out his face and see his eyes wide open and mouth open, so yeah, I think he was screaming. Also, this one woman, a pedestrian with a baby stroller, she was decapitated. Looked liek she was leaning into a car and got hit by another flying body.

Halh her body was in the car, the other half was outside it. That was it for me. My mom grabbed me and my grandmother and we got out of there, drove down to San Ysidro to hang with my Uncle the rest of the day and the next day until about 4 PM. I hated going home it was so scary and sad. I ended up going to Southwest a couple years and then started driving truck.

Now I am back over in Chula and I drive my truck past there on I a couple days a week on my current run, which takes me right by there on the way to National. I think about it often. It really was the worst day in SD. Sherri said on Tuesday, July 29, When I was young and in college I had a brief relationship with a flight attendant on PSA Flight She was a wonderfully exuberant, classy, and simply fun young lady and we had a summer of intensity the year before.

She was bright, sensitive, tender, and very loving. I surmise her life would have been a joyous one, filled with achievement and happiness.

We used to laugh about a colleague of hers mentioned here, the flight attendant who had her feet molested. We were both fetish for that sort of thing and joked we were jealous! Of course, we would hope it to be a woman. She had big plans for PSA, hoping to eventually move into the office there at Lindbergh.

I think she would have gone far. Today I live in Oakland, Ca. I miss San Diego I left after graduating from UC and think of the city often. Ed Archiola said on Tuesday, July 29, We had a guy on our bowling team who had a body go right through the side of his house on Boundary and land in his living room. He thought the person still might be alive, even though they had all four missing limbs, because for like two straight minutes, the body would shudder every few seconds and the lips would slightly move and eyes dart about and the head would turn left to right.

I always found this entirely disturbing but that guy had been in Nam and seen a ton so I guess he handled it ok. He was in his garage and came in to see this man in this condition.

He said his heart was pounding though.

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He had a writer of some book interview him one time about it, but the guy changed up the story to make the man a woman. He was always peeved that he gave this man some time and he took a real event and changed it up. Monica Ware said on Wednesday, July 30,8: I heard about that body in the house. My father was an SDPD cop, off duty that day too.

But since he lived off of University not far from the crash, he went over there to help. He said there was some thought the person was alive briefly.

Got to be this incident posted. I was born in Dec. My Mom was a school teacher in Serra Mesa at the time and she said you could see the smoke from the site over that way. She had no idea her husband was working a plane disaster until she got home that afternoon and he had left a note. Dad was really upset about this crash she said.

I would be so sick to deal with that. DK Vowinkle said on Wednesday, July 30,8: People on that plane knew what was happening. They had twenty seconds. We found about a dozen seats soaked in urine. Had to be awful. I worked that disaster for three days and never, EVER, wanted to do another one. I did do a small plane crash at Brown a few years later but even though the wreckage was pretty twisted up, the guy lived.

I hate plane crashes and I am glad I am retired now. PSA was a horrible, horrible, horrible disaster in Sand Dog. Eyes wide open, mouths open. And I hope itnever happens in SD or anyhwere again.

Greg said on Wednesday, July 30, I gather there were memorial observances on the 10th and 20th anniversaries of the PSA crash, and I am wondering if anyone knows whether there will be anything on September 25, ? Randy Shannon said on Thursday, July 31,7: The cop that told one of the posters here that people were alive after the crash is exaggerating it sounds like.

Nearly everyone was killed instantly and mutilated in impact. However, there were reports of a handful, less than a dozen if I recall correctly, victims from the plane who were either heard screaming such as the flying superman or were in various stages of death following the crash, such as uncontrollable twitching, spastic movements, eyes darting about, or in one case an eyewitness to a victim that moved slightly back and forth, left to right, smashed onto her back after impacting a lawn on Boundary.

Most of this stuff was either not given to the media or deliberately kept from them due to the extremely disturbing nature of these reports.

I was working Public Affairs for Western Airlines at the time and was sentto assist our friends at PSA with the overwhelming workload in the affairs office in the days after this crash.

I think I was there through Thursday that week before returning to my normal duties. I heard several accounts of this from people at the crash site. So those accounts here reconcile with what we saw. It was a gruesome event.

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